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PostSubject: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 2:20 pm

The rules for the tournament are as follows:
This will be a tournament of skill. First round will be NFE only. Second Round will be NU only. Third will be UU only. And every round after that will be OU.

Evasion Clause
Moves that boost evasion (i.e. Double Team and Minimize) are not allowed.

Freeze Clause
Two or more Pokémon on a team cannot be frozen at the same time.

Sleep Clause
Two or more Pokémon on a team cannot be asleep at the same time. Self-induce sleep via rest does not activate Sleep Clause.

OHKO Clause
One-Hit KO moves are not allowed.

Species Clause
Two or more of the same Pokémon may not be used on the same team.

Self KO Clause
If both players have only one Pokémon left, moves which KO both the user and the opponent are not allowed (e.g. Explosion, Destiny Bond). If recoil damage would cause a tie, Self KO Clause does not activate, and the player who last attacked is the winner of the battle.

Prizes:
1st place: The Champion spot + 500 CPs
2nd place: 6 SAV'd pokemon + 250 CPs
3rd place: 3 SAV'd pokemon + 125 CPs
4th place: 1 SAV'd pokemon + 75 CPs



2ND ROUND IS NU ONLY.

Pairings:

Lon vs Rod-----------------------------> Lon
Kance vs GaryxOak -------------------> GaryxOak
Cactushh5 vs 355jt---------------------->Cactushh5

Spriker vs Legen2Killer ------------------>
iBattle vs Twilightknight123 -------------> iBattle
Boomoo vs SuperSVD-------------------->SuperSVD

Good luck to everyone. You have until the end of Sunday. Post results here.


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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyTue Sep 07, 2010 5:44 pm

K legend we can battle when im ready
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyThu Sep 09, 2010 9:29 pm

i lost to gary, stupid freeze hax before i baton pass for some zuulage
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyFri Sep 10, 2010 11:25 am

iBattle won... Stupid self KO clause... He KOed me with flare blitz and then died from recoil... I swore if something like that happened, the one that died of recoil lost... But whatever. Congrats.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyFri Sep 10, 2010 1:55 pm

Damn bro. But i'm pretty sure that self KO Clause only counts if its explosion or selfdestruct.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyFri Sep 10, 2010 3:00 pm

SGDonZ wrote:
Damn bro. But i'm pretty sure that self KO Clause only counts if its explosion or selfdestruct.

I used flair blitz and it took him and myself out which gives me the match since i used it.

this is what it said on the rules

'If recoil damage would cause a tie, Self KO Clause does not activate, and the player who last attacked is the winner of the battle.'
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyFri Sep 10, 2010 3:11 pm

So the battle was a draw? I'm confused.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyFri Sep 10, 2010 3:34 pm

The battle was technically a draw, but because of the self KO clause stating that if a move that induces recoil (flare blitz, in that case) KOs both remaining pokemon, the pokemon who attacked last wins (meaning the one that used flare blitz). That's why iBattle wins. Kind of a gay rule, but whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptyFri Sep 10, 2010 9:11 pm

twilightknight123 wrote:
Kind of a gay rule, but whatever.

No u.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 1:22 am

Uhm. If it was a draw nobody wins. Rematch then.
Just because he attacked first or last doesnt mean he wins. The score ended 0/0. No one wins then.

Am i missing something here?
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 1:41 am

Hmm. If recoil hadn't occurred he would've won without a doubt.

If he had fainted himself willingly (with explosion or something) it would've been a loss due to the Self KO clause.

But iBattle didn't know whether recoil would faint him or not. He attacked to make it faint without fainting his own pokemon. It was unfortunate that it did, but regardless of it ultimately ending in a draw it is still iBattle's win due to the clause:

Kisame wrote:
Self KO Clause
If both players have only one Pokémon left, moves which KO both the user and the opponent are not allowed (e.g. Explosion, Destiny Bond). If recoil damage would cause a tie, Self KO Clause does not activate, and the player who last attacked is the winner of the battle.

Refer to the underlined bold section please.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 5:00 am

LOL! I've been a pro battler for ages & i never knew that haha.
But yeah iBattle wins then. GG to both of you.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 8:29 am

As a little rebuttal... How could he have NOT known it would KO him? Flare Blitz deals recoil equal to 1/3 the amount of damage done. I had over 50% (around 250 HP out of 384 HP so around 65% so recoil would've done around 83 HP worth of damage), he had at MOST 15% (more likely around 10%, so maybe around 37 HP). And even if the move's recoil didn't kill him, his life orb would have. And don't tell me he wouldn't know if life orb would kill him since all he needs to do is take off the last digit of his total health and that's how much will get taken away. And because he had a life orb, he didn't need to use Flare Blitz (a recoil inducing move). He could have used Extremespeed or whatever third move he had (Stone Edge?). And even more so... He was poisoned! Not toxic poison, regular poison which takes away 1/8 every turn. So with life orb taking away 1/10 and poison taking away 1/8, that is nearly 1/4 of his total HP. So even if he didn't use a recoil inducing move AND my attacked miss or something, he still would have died.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 12:07 pm

I lost sadly 0-2 gg cact Smile Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 12:47 pm

DEATH it was an epic battle :}
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 8:07 pm

twilightknight123 wrote:
As a little rebuttal... How could he have NOT known it would KO him? Flare Blitz deals recoil equal to 1/3 the amount of damage done. I had over 50% (around 250 HP out of 384 HP so around 65% so recoil would've done around 83 HP worth of damage), he had at MOST 15% (more likely around 10%, so maybe around 37 HP). And even if the move's recoil didn't kill him, his life orb would have. And don't tell me he wouldn't know if life orb would kill him since all he needs to do is take off the last digit of his total health and that's how much will get taken away. And because he had a life orb, he didn't need to use Flare Blitz (a recoil inducing move). He could have used Extremespeed or whatever third move he had (Stone Edge?). And even more so... He was poisoned! Not toxic poison, regular poison which takes away 1/8 every turn. So with life orb taking away 1/10 and poison taking away 1/8, that is nearly 1/4 of his total HP. So even if he didn't use a recoil inducing move AND my attacked miss or something, he still would have died.

Twaddle speak. Point is, he won. Now quit your bitching woman.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySat Sep 11, 2010 9:58 pm

i win :DD
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 9:29 am

Wow, Kis... No need to be a dick. I'm just saying it's a gay rule in those circumstances considering if he used any other move, I would have won and he is only winning because he killed himself.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 10:00 am

TK enough now haha
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 10:48 am

tk dont worry u can try next time Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 11:08 am

tk he still won shut up and deal you would have lost the tourney anyway so stop whining its making you look bad
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 11:32 am

ibattle won self ko clause was in effect now stop complaining tk you cannot deny that you lost
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 1:20 pm

I'm pretty sure Tk understand that part now. There is no need to gang up on him.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 pm

I understand he won because of the self-KO clause. And I understand I lost. I'm not trying to change that or anything. I'm just saying it's a stupid rule.
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PostSubject: Re: Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round   Champion Tournament September 2010. 2nd Round EmptySun Sep 12, 2010 6:23 pm

twilightknight123 wrote:
I'm just saying it's a stupid rule.

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